From aaronsg at sas.upenn.edu Sat Jul 1 03:46:40 2006 From: aaronsg at sas.upenn.edu (Aaron Geller) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:46:40 -0400 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 604] more font help, please Message-ID: <3283D23A-98E0-4CF3-989D-170B4136A6F7@sas.upenn.edu> I have enabled carbon-font, as mentioned at: http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/archives/macemacsjp-english/2006- April/000537.html (I inserted the lines: (setq load-path (cons "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/ share/emacs/22.0.50/site-lisp/mac/" load-path)) (if (eq window-system 'mac) (require 'carbon-font)) in my .emacs.) Whereas before I did this (since installing the June CarbonEmacs build), the hiragino and osaka font families were not options when I shift-clicked to change fonts, they are now. Additionally, I can now see the Japanese characters in the file /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/share/emacs/22.0.50/site- lisp/mac/carbon-font.el for example. So this was a step in the right direction, presumably. However, selecting one of the seemingly-available fonts in order to change font size doesn't result in a change in font, although the emacs window does resize (and then revert) itself. Any pointers on what I've left out or done wrong? I just want to be able to switch font sizes. Thanks for this excellent emacs!! Aaron From drernie at opendarwin.org Sat Jul 1 05:47:31 2006 From: drernie at opendarwin.org (Dr. Ernie Prabhakar) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:47:31 -0700 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 605] MacEmacs Aesthetics? Message-ID: <1FE27B90-B7C2-4568-A03A-E15FAD41324C@opendarwin.org> Hi all, I'm new to the list, so please forgive me if this is off-topic. I've been lobbying several people at Apple to bundle a GUI version of Emacs in Mac OS X. They've rejected the current builds as not being "Aqua" enough. Specifically, they had four complaints: 1. The menu items use emacs-style parenthesized "C-X" and "S-X" keyboard shortcuts, instead of the canonical, right-justified "^X" and "[up arrow]S" 2. The toolbar is in a different color than the window bar (not integral, like modern apps) 3. The toolbar icons looks more like Mac OS 9 than Mac OS X 4. The default font looks more like something from Windows than, say, Terminal.app These all seem like they should be simple to fix, but I have no idea how. Is anyone here familiar with how to modify those aspects of Emacs? Would anyone like to help work on this, in order to get this bundled in Mac OS X? Many thanks, -- Dr. Ernie ------------ Ernest N. Prabhakar, Ph.D. Ex-Physicist, Marketing Weenie, and Dilettante Hacker Probe-Hacker blog: http://www.opendarwin.org/~drernie/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/archives/macemacsjp-english/attachments/20060630/b68ff142/attachment.htm From zenitani at mac.com Sun Jul 2 03:30:48 2006 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 03:30:48 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 606] Re: MacEmacs Aesthetics? In-Reply-To: <1FE27B90-B7C2-4568-A03A-E15FAD41324C@opendarwin.org> References: <1FE27B90-B7C2-4568-A03A-E15FAD41324C@opendarwin.org> Message-ID: Hi, On 2006/07/01, at 5:47, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar wrote: > > I'm new to the list, so please forgive me if this is off-topic. > > I've been lobbying several people at Apple to bundle a GUI version > of Emacs in Mac OS X. They've rejected the current builds as not > being "Aqua" enough. Specifically, they had four complaints: > > 1. The menu items use emacs-style parenthesized "C-X" and "S-X" > keyboard shortcuts, instead of the canonical, right-justified "^X" > and "[up arrow]S" > > 2. The toolbar is in a different color than the window bar (not > integral, like modern apps) > > 3. The toolbar icons looks more like Mac OS 9 than Mac OS X > > 4. The default font looks more like something from Windows than, > say, Terminal.app > > These all seem like they should be simple to fix, but I have no > idea how. Is anyone here familiar with how to modify those aspects > of Emacs? > For 1-3, I think we have to wait for Cocoa-based Emacs.app (Emacs 23). See http://emacs-app.sourceforge.net/ for details. -- Seiji From zenitani at mac.com Sun Jul 2 03:48:35 2006 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 03:48:35 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 607] Re: more font help, please In-Reply-To: <3283D23A-98E0-4CF3-989D-170B4136A6F7@sas.upenn.edu> References: <3283D23A-98E0-4CF3-989D-170B4136A6F7@sas.upenn.edu> Message-ID: On 2006/07/01, at 3:46, Aaron Geller wrote: > I have enabled carbon-font, as mentioned at: > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/archives/macemacsjp-english/2006- > April/000537.html > > (I inserted the lines: > > (setq load-path (cons "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/ > share/emacs/22.0.50/site-lisp/mac/" load-path)) > (if (eq window-system 'mac) (require 'carbon-font)) > (if (eq window-system 'mac) (require 'carbon-font)) is enough. > in my .emacs.) > > Whereas before I did this (since installing the June CarbonEmacs > build), the hiragino and osaka font families were not options when I > shift-clicked to change fonts, they are now. Additionally, I can now > see the Japanese characters in the file > /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/share/emacs/22.0.50/site- > lisp/mac/carbon-font.el > for example. So this was a step in the right direction, presumably. > > However, selecting one of the seemingly-available fonts in order to > change font size doesn't result in a change in font, although the > emacs window does resize (and then revert) itself. > You mean that the font-size remains unchanged when you choose a menu item (e.g. hiraginokaku xx-dot medium)? If so, it's strange. I am happy if you describe a sample case with small screenshots. > Any pointers on what I've left out or done wrong? You are in the right direction... -- Seiji From aaronsg at sas.upenn.edu Mon Jul 3 03:03:35 2006 From: aaronsg at sas.upenn.edu (Aaron Geller) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 14:03:35 -0400 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 608] Re: more font help, please Message-ID: <2BEBA041-B2F3-4003-BAB2-3ACC6E2CD1CD@sas.upenn.edu> > You mean that the font-size remains unchanged when you choose a menu > item (e.g. hiraginokaku xx-dot medium)? > If so, it's strange. I realized that the following part of my .emacs was preventing emacs from accessing the other fonts: (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(default ((t (:stipple nil :background "#fffdc2" :foreground "black" :inverse-video nil :box nil :strike-through nil :overline nil :underline nil :slant normal :weight normal :height 120 :width normal :family "apple-monaco")))) '(fringe ((((class color) (background light)) (:background "#fffdc2"))))) When I comment it out, I can change font sizes. This is e-lisp which is automatically generated when I set the color for the background and the fringe. Do you have any suggestions for getting both font-size changing and background-color customization to work at the same time? Thanks!! Aaron From drernie at opendarwin.org Thu Jul 6 07:27:20 2006 From: drernie at opendarwin.org (Dr. Ernie Prabhakar) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 15:27:20 -0700 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 609] Re: MacEmacs Aesthetics? In-Reply-To: References: <1FE27B90-B7C2-4568-A03A-E15FAD41324C@opendarwin.org> Message-ID: Thanks. Does someone have a list comparing the different flavors of Emacs for the Mac? I'm having a hard time keeping track of them all! -- Ernie P. On Jul 1, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Seiji Zenitani wrote: > For 1-3, I think we have to wait for Cocoa-based Emacs.app (Emacs 23). > > See http://emacs-app.sourceforge.net/ for details. > From pa.news at free.fr Fri Jul 7 17:21:31 2006 From: pa.news at free.fr (Pierre Albarede) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 10:21:31 +0200 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 610] wrong case sensitive replace Message-ID: <54d31157c544da770627fa2621484fb1@free.fr> Hello, GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin7.9.0) of 2006-06-19 on woodstock.local.mac M-x query-replace RTN r?alit? RTN \index{r?alit?} will replace 'R?alit?' by '\Index{R?alit?}' instead of expected '\index{R?alit?}'. I think it is a bug, isn't it ? Pierre Albarede http://pierre.albarede.free.fr From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Fri Jul 7 18:03:19 2006 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 11:03:19 +0200 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 611] Re: wrong case sensitive replace In-Reply-To: <54d31157c544da770627fa2621484fb1@free.fr> References: <54d31157c544da770627fa2621484fb1@free.fr> Message-ID: <8B4AC92B-5EE6-4E91-888A-3C494959556A@Web.DE> Am 07.07.2006 um 10:21 schrieb Pierre Albarede: > I think it is a bug, isn't it ? No, it's case-insensitiveness: Matching is independent of case if `case-fold-search' is non-nil and FROM-STRING has no uppercase letters. Replacement transfers the case pattern of the old text to the new text, if `case-replace' and `case-fold-search' are non-nil and FROM-STRING has no uppercase letters. (Transferring the case pattern means that if the old text matched is all caps, or capitalized, then its replacement is upcased or capitalized.) You can customize these variables. Could be it's a new feature in the recent GNU Emacs 22 code to do this capitalising in all occurrences, even those where it seems inappropriate. I think the behaviour looks at least suspicious. I wouldn't mind sending a bug report (see Help menu). At least you'll get an explanation why it's correct ... -- Greetings Pete A morning without coffee is like something without something else. From nadeemf at gmail.com Sat Jul 8 03:38:23 2006 From: nadeemf at gmail.com (Nadeem Faruque) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 19:38:23 +0100 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 612] Remapping numeric keypad Message-ID: <9ECCFDB4-F2FF-4BD9-8617-9ACC264DA0B0@gmail.com> I've just installed the latest release (22.0.50 from 16/6/2006) and found that my keymappings to the number keypad no longer work. Using (global-set-key (quote [kp-4]) 'beginning-of-line) numeric-keypad 4 would call beginning-of-line but now it just types '4' ^h v 4 tells me that 4 runs the command self-insert-command which is an interactive built-in function in `C source code'. It is bound to many ordinary text characters. (self-insert-command n) So it seems that this latest build of emacs does not distinguish between the numeric-keypad keys and their main-keyboard equivalent (with the exception of 'kp-enter'). Another quirk I notice is that the key above the keypad-7 (sorry I do not know what it is called, it is a rectable with a cross over it) appears to send ^l I'm very dependent upon mapping these keys, is this a feature or a bug? Yours sincerely Nadeem -- Dr S.M. Nadeem N. Faruque From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat Jul 8 04:07:53 2006 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:07:53 +0200 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 613] Re: Remapping numeric keypad In-Reply-To: <9ECCFDB4-F2FF-4BD9-8617-9ACC264DA0B0@gmail.com> References: <9ECCFDB4-F2FF-4BD9-8617-9ACC264DA0B0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <36C31482-8F0C-46D1-8F86-1D4FCD6B8C5A@Web.DE> Am 07.07.2006 um 20:38 schrieb Nadeem Faruque: > I've just installed the latest release (22.0.50 from 16/6/2006) and > found that my keymappings to the number keypad no longer work. > Using > (global-set-key (quote [kp-4]) 'beginning-of-line) > numeric-keypad 4 would call beginning-of-line > > but now it just types '4' There is, at least for me, a C-kp-4 available ... There is work going on to correct this issue. -- Greetings Pete Real Time, adj.: Here and now, as opposed to fake time, which only occurs there and then. From huber at paradoxical.net Thu Jul 13 10:07:56 2006 From: huber at paradoxical.net (Josh) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:07:56 -0400 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 614] character palette with carbon emacs Message-ID: <87d5cawbv7.fsf@callisto.paradoxical.net> Hello everybody, I'm having a small problem with the carbon Emacs build. (latest released build, not from CVS.) I can't insert some characters with the character palette, but let me give you some background as to what I'm trying to accomplish: - I'm using XeTex to typeset documents containing potentially several languages, including characters from the IPA. (international phonetic alphabet.) - I'm using the unicode fonts supplied by SIL--both the "Charis SIL" and "Doulos SIL" fonts. - I'm using a mac os IPA palette (http://www.blugs.com/IPA/) to input the unicode IPA characters. XeTex and the two fonts I mentioned above are available at sil.org. Essentially, I'm trying to compose utf-8 encoded documents which contain English, Japanese, and IPA characters. Everything but the IPA palette is working. Additionally, when I try to enter the IPA characters using the character palette, a message is displayed at the bottom of the palette: "The current application does not support this Unicode-only character." ...and the "insert" button is greyed out. Any ideas how I can get this to work? At the moment, I'm using the XeTex "xunicode" package to enter IPA symbols using the TIPA syntax. This works fine, but it would be really great to see the actual IPA glyphs in my Emacs buffer. :-) Thanks in advance for your help, Josh From j.m.figueroa at ed.ac.uk Thu Jul 13 17:34:50 2006 From: j.m.figueroa at ed.ac.uk (Jose Figueroa-O'Farrill) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:34:50 +0100 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 615] character palette with carbon emacs In-Reply-To: <87d5cawbv7.fsf@callisto.paradoxical.net> References: <87d5cawbv7.fsf@callisto.paradoxical.net> Message-ID: <17590.1450.711195.936689@castalia.local> Hi Josh, Josh> I can't insert some characters with the character palette I have not had much luck with the character palette in the past, so I simply set the input-method in the Emacs buffer appropriately: M-x set-input-method and then you can choose, e.g., ipa, japanese,... To see which (sequence of) keystrokes produce which characters you can do M-x describe-input-method which will contain more information. I hope this helps, Jos? -- Prof Jos? M Figueroa-O'Farrill | Phone: +44 (0) 131 6505066 School of Mathematics | Fax: +44 (0) 131 6506553 University of Edinburgh | Mobile: +44 (0) 7870 239186 Edinburgh EH9 3JZ, Scotland, UK | URL: http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~jmf From wwzhang at gmail.com Sun Jul 23 23:07:04 2006 From: wwzhang at gmail.com (Wen Zhang) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 22:07:04 +0800 (CST) Subject: [macemacsjp-english 616] Carbon Emacs package 2006-07-15 bug Message-ID: <20060723.220704.37496864.wwzhang@gmail.com> Hi, I found in this release I can't input the passwords of Mew when it was hinted while an older release works well. Do anyone here also find this? ---------- Wen Zhang My Homepage: http://zhangw.com/ Quote: ... ich bin in einem dusenjet ins jahr 53 vor chr ... ich lande im antiken Rom ... einige gladiatoren spielen scrabble ... ich rieche PIZZA ... From zenitani at mac.com Tue Jul 25 00:01:14 2006 From: zenitani at mac.com (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 00:01:14 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 617] Re: Carbon Emacs package 2006-07-15 bug In-Reply-To: <20060723.220704.37496864.wwzhang@gmail.com> References: <20060723.220704.37496864.wwzhang@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, A bug in emacs main code. I withdrew the July release. -- Seiji On 2006/07/23, at 23:07, Wen Zhang wrote: > Hi, > I found in this release I can't input the passwords of Mew when it was > hinted while an older release works well. Do anyone here also find > this? > > > ---------- > Wen Zhang > My Homepage: http://zhangw.com/ >