From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Tue May 3 02:17:29 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 02:17:29 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 68] Carbon Emacs for Tiger (beta) Message-ID: <578E09A9-0B84-47E3-9457-DF53229B7F0C@tkg.att.ne.jp> Hi, Beta version for Tiger available: http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-e.html http://macemacsjp.sourceforge.jp/package/ best wishes, Seiji From david.reitter at gmail.com Tue May 3 03:57:17 2005 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 19:57:17 +0100 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 69] Re: Problem while applying tranparency-patch to latest CVS Emacs Message-ID: <4d1e1afe0f2c9ab43432119a7a125912@gmail.com> Martin - I wrote to Steven Tamm a couple of weeks ago in support of the patch - it doesn't do anything harmful IMHO... > Hunk #3 FAILED at 9911. > 1 out of 3 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/macterm.c.rej This is fairly simply to do manually - just insert four lines at the end. Or, apply this patch to macterm.c (you'll still need the original for w32term.c): *** macterm.c Mon May 2 08:08:47 2005 --- macterm.c.orig Sun May 1 09:06:43 2005 *************** *** 320,328 **** extern void menubar_selection_callback (FRAME_PTR, int); extern void set_frame_menubar (FRAME_PTR, int, int); - /* Make Transparency */ - int mac_transparency_alpha; - /* X display function emulation */ void --- 320,325 ---- *************** *** 5326,5333 **** f->win_gravity = NorthWestGravity; x_wm_set_size_hint (f, (long) 0, 0); - SetWindowAlpha (f->output_data.mac->mWP, ((float)mac_transparency_alpha/100)); - SizeWindow (FRAME_MAC_WINDOW (f), pixelwidth, pixelheight, 0); #if TARGET_API_MAC_CARBON if (f->output_data.mac->hourglass_control) --- 5323,5328 ---- *************** *** 9987,9999 **** The text will be rendered using Core Graphics text rendering which may anti-alias the text. */); Vmac_use_core_graphics = Qnil; - - - DEFVAR_INT ("mac-transparency-alpha", &mac_transparency_alpha, - doc: /* Transparency ratio, can be set integer between 0 to 100. - 0 means fully transparent, 100 means non transparent */); - mac_transparency_alpha = 100; - /* Register an entry for `mac-roman' so that it can be used when creating the terminal frame on Mac OS 9 before loading --- 9982,9987 ---- From kjosmoen at gmail.com Wed May 4 21:14:11 2005 From: kjosmoen at gmail.com (Thomas Kjosmoen) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 07:14:11 -0500 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 70] Problems with shortcuts containing command and shift Message-ID: <9938E1A6-FC42-47F7-BBC7-7B28282763C1@gmail.com> Hi everybody, I'm having problems using keyboard shortcuts containing the command key and the shift key. Here's an example: (setq mac-command-key-is-meta nil) (require 'redo) (global-set-key [(alt z)] 'undo) (global-set-key [(alt shift z)] 'redo) This binds the keyboard shortcuts correctly, but Emacs doesn't understand it. However, if I bind shortcuts with meta and shift, those work just fine. Checking both the A-z and the A-S-z shortcuts with C-h k, BOTH give me this message: ------->8------- A-z runs the command undo which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `redo'. It is bound to C-_, A-z, , C-/, . (undo &optional arg) Undo some previous changes. Repeat this command to undo more changes. A numeric argument serves as a repeat count. --------8<-------- It simply seems like Emacs doesn't even see that there is a difference between A-z and A-S-z. Do anyone on this mailing list have any ideas of how to fix this? For the record, I have tried this in both the Emacs on your web page, and an Emacs version I've installed using Gentoo. Best regards, Thomas Kjosmoen From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Thu May 5 13:53:53 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:53:53 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 71] Re: Carbon Emacs for Tiger (beta) In-Reply-To: <578E09A9-0B84-47E3-9457-DF53229B7F0C@tkg.att.ne.jp> References: <578E09A9-0B84-47E3-9457-DF53229B7F0C@tkg.att.ne.jp> Message-ID: <8A9FC9A7-3389-4F1B-9F30-797CABB165F9@tkg.att.ne.jp> Hi, Beta version for Tiger updated: http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-e.html http://macemacsjp.sourceforge.jp/package/ To CJK (Chinese/Japanese/Korean) users: Since inline input-method patch is revised, settings for CJK languages should be modified in your .emacs.el. Please see the wiki page at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en/CarbonEmacsPackage. Sincerely, Seiji Zenitani From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Sat May 7 12:20:06 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 12:20:06 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 72] Carbon Emacs Package (Mar. '05) for Tiger In-Reply-To: <4a817b68f03ae22b3deb0e9088f58cc2@tkg.att.ne.jp> References: <0ca4a16632de642cbfc1284ad3ca9835@cl.cs.titech.ac.jp> <4a817b68f03ae22b3deb0e9088f58cc2@tkg.att.ne.jp> Message-ID: Hi all, Carbon Emacs Package (Mar. '05) is available at: http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-e.html * built for Tiger * emacs 22.0.50 (CVS 2005-05-01) * new inline input-method patch applied (courtesy of Hashimoto-san) ** Settings for Chinese/Japanese/Korean languages have been changed. Please see the wiki page at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en/ CarbonEmacsPackage. * transparency patch v0.2.1 applied (courtesy of Hiromatsu-san) ** added M-x mac-set-transparency (See [macemacsjp-dev 71]) * removed hide_menubar patch, SKK and physical-line-mode. * updated aspell (0.50 => 0.60) * isearch works fine now * added xdvi-search * added a minor mode "mac-preview-mode". When this minor mode is on, an image of the buffer or the region can be previewed by Preview.app with help from the gs program (/usr/local/bin/gs). * "Help > Carbon Emacs Package" menu has been revised. ** The user can save his or her settings by choosing "Save Options". The settings are saved in the preference file: ~/Library/Preferences/ CarbonEmacsPackage.plist. * The file-name-coding-system is set to utf-8 with accent-character modifications. Sincerely, Seiji Zenitani From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Sat May 7 12:35:23 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 12:35:23 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 73] Re: Carbon Emacs Package (Mar. '05) for Tiger In-Reply-To: References: <0ca4a16632de642cbfc1284ad3ca9835@cl.cs.titech.ac.jp> <4a817b68f03ae22b3deb0e9088f58cc2@tkg.att.ne.jp> Message-ID: <7D951C01-1AC4-4CA2-8DE9-DA2280C0FC40@tkg.att.ne.jp> > ** Settings for Chinese/Japanese/Korean languages have been changed. > Please see the wiki page at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en/ > CarbonEmacsPackage. Again, http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en/CarbonEmacsPackage Seiji From tobias at dsv.su.se Tue May 10 19:27:42 2005 From: tobias at dsv.su.se (Tobias Wrigstad) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:27:42 +0200 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 74] Hide Emacs hotkey does not work in Tiger version Message-ID: Hi, I'm an addict of Emacs and the CarbonEmacs port. So much in fact that I waited to upgrade to Tiger until the CarbonEmacs Tiger build became available. Anyway, I cannot seem to get cmd+h to work properly. It worked fine in the previous build. My layman's diagnose is that CarbonEmacs steals all keyboard input and does not pass it on to the system as I cannot even get the Hide Emacs hotkey to work even if I change it (through the System Preferences) to something that Emacs has no keybinding for. I found people have been requesting cmd+h to map to mark-paragraph, but not the other way around. I also tried to set the mac-pass-command-to-system and mac-pass-control-to-system variables but to no avail. One one occasion I've been able to invoke Hide Others using the regular keys, but was unable to see any pattern. I know there are other ways of hiding Emacs, but I still would like to get this to work. If anyone out there has a clue, please tell me. I'm using a Swedish keyboard, it that is of any importance. Regards, Tobias Wrigstad From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Wed May 11 02:31:08 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 02:31:08 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 75] Re: Hide Emacs hotkey does not work in Tiger version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <08BECE55-0A10-4ED2-B8E0-85FAD646DDD6@tkg.att.ne.jp> Hi, On 2005/05/10, at 19:27, Tobias Wrigstad wrote: > > Anyway, I cannot seem to get cmd+h to work properly. It worked > fine in the previous build. My layman's diagnose is that > CarbonEmacs steals all keyboard input and does not pass it on to > the system as I cannot even get the Hide Emacs hotkey to work > even if I change it (through the System Preferences) to something > that Emacs has no keybinding for. > As you pointed out, the new inline input-method patch for East Asian users eats all key inputs. This will be fixed in the next release in June. At least, it is possible to apply the previous version of the patch to the Emacs. Sorry for your inconvenience for a while. Seiji From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Wed May 11 02:32:17 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 02:32:17 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 76] Re: Problems with shortcuts containing command and shift In-Reply-To: <9938E1A6-FC42-47F7-BBC7-7B28282763C1@gmail.com> References: <9938E1A6-FC42-47F7-BBC7-7B28282763C1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0C75306F-B010-42E1-9B47-E2F027174E76@tkg.att.ne.jp> Hi, On 2005/05/04, at 21:14, Thomas Kjosmoen wrote: > > (setq mac-command-key-is-meta nil) > (require 'redo) > (global-set-key [(alt z)] 'undo) > (global-set-key [(alt shift z)] 'redo) > > This binds the keyboard shortcuts correctly, but Emacs doesn't > understand it. However, if I bind shortcuts with meta and shift, > those work just fine. Checking both the A-z and the A-S-z shortcuts > with C-h k, BOTH give me this message: I was also unable to distinguish the two. The easiest way is to use A- Option-z instead. (global-set-key [(alt meta z)] 'redo) Also, there is very good emacs distribution at http://www.wordtech- software.com/aquamacs.html. As far as I looked around its website, this one might be ready for A-S-z. Seiji From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Tue May 17 20:54:35 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:54:35 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 77] Carbon Emacs Package (May '05 v2) Message-ID: <5268C5F2-7C95-4DF4-873E-6C5E9A71843A@tkg.att.ne.jp> ??????????? 10.4.1 ????????????????? riece????????migemo????????? http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-j.html ?? # ??????????????????????????? ===== Hi all, Carbon Emacs Package for 10.4.1 (May '05 v2) is released. Previous versions do not run on Mac OS X 10.4.1. http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-e.html * CVS 20050515 * added riece * removed migemo Seiji From andi-w at gmx.de Tue May 17 20:37:58 2005 From: andi-w at gmx.de (Andreas Weiler) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:37:58 +0200 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 78] emacs broken on OS X 10.4.1? Message-ID: <3E473155-5451-4AC2-B97C-9A804D5B4221@gmx.de> Dear All, I have used your latest carbonized emacs version on Tiger with no problems, but after updating from 10.4.0 to 10.4.1 it doesn't start up anymore. Any hints why this is the case? Thanks, Andi. From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Tue May 17 21:09:00 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:09:00 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 79] Re: emacs broken on OS X 10.4.1? In-Reply-To: <3E473155-5451-4AC2-B97C-9A804D5B4221@gmx.de> References: <3E473155-5451-4AC2-B97C-9A804D5B4221@gmx.de> Message-ID: <886282B6-3410-471A-9813-E06AE994A784@tkg.att.ne.jp> Hi, Emacs has to be recompiled on 10.4.1. Try today's version. Seiji On 2005/05/17, at 20:37, Andreas Weiler wrote: > Dear All, > I have used your latest carbonized emacs version on Tiger with no > problems, but after updating from 10.4.0 to 10.4.1 it doesn't start > up anymore. > > Any hints why this is the case? P.S. I think the following problems are still remaining. Any improvements? [macemacsjp-english 54] [macemacsjp-english 70] [macemacsjp-english 74] From aconchillo at gmail.com Wed May 18 05:59:36 2005 From: aconchillo at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Aleix_Conchillo_Flaqu=E9?=) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:59:36 +0200 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 80] keyboard encoding broken? Message-ID: Hi, I've just updated to Mac OS X 10.4.1 and the corresponding new Carbon Emacs package (May 05 v2). I'm getting these errors: Symbol's value as variable is void: kTextEncodingMacRoman I have these settings: (set-language-environment "Latin-1") (set-keyboard-coding-system 'mac-roman) (setq mac-keyboard-text-encoding kTextEncodingMacRoman) which worked fine in 10.3.9. If I disable set-keyboard-coding-system and mac-keyboard-text- encoding I can type accents, but when typing the second accented letter I get an extra accent, like this: ?`? Thanks for your help. Best regards, aleix From agoralczyk at gmail.com Tue May 17 18:33:12 2005 From: agoralczyk at gmail.com (Armin Goralczyk) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:33:12 +0200 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 81] fink aspell Message-ID: Hi I tried to use the fink aspell with carbon-emacs (latest Tiger version). As suggested I removed carbon-emacs-builtin-aspell.el from site-start and inserted (setq ispell-program-name "/sw/bin/aspell") in my .emacs. Aspell works fine invoked from the shell but does not within carbon-emacs. Instead I get the following message: Starting new Ispell process... ispell-check-version: /sw/bin/aspell exited with signal Segmentation fault Thanks for help. Armin Goralczyk From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Thu May 19 03:00:59 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 03:00:59 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 82] Carbon Emacs Package (May '05 v3) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7545657B-74DC-412A-85FB-06EDF8A58B15@tkg.att.ne.jp> Hi all, Even newer build (May '05 v3) is now available. http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-e.html Since the new inline patch introduced many troubles, I use the previous version of the patch. I hope the Hide Emacs issue ([macemacsjp-english 75]) and the accent issue ([macemacsjp-english 80]) are now fixed. ===== On 2005/05/18, at 5:59, Aleix Conchillo Flaqu? wrote: > > I'm getting these errors: > > Symbol's value as variable is void: kTextEncodingMacRoman > > I have these settings: > > (set-language-environment "Latin-1") > (set-keyboard-coding-system 'mac-roman) > (setq mac-keyboard-text-encoding kTextEncodingMacRoman) > > which worked fine in 10.3.9. It seems that mac-keyboard-text-encoding does not exist in the latest version. On 2005/05/17, at 18:33, Armin Goralczyk wrote: > Hi > I tried to use the fink aspell with carbon-emacs (latest Tiger > version). As suggested I removed carbon-emacs-builtin-aspell.el from > site-start and inserted (setq ispell-program-name "/sw/bin/aspell") > in my .emacs. Aspell works fine invoked from the shell but does not > within carbon-emacs. Instead I get the following message: > > Starting new Ispell process... > ispell-check-version: /sw/bin/aspell exited with signal Segmentation > fault At present I don't use fink on my Tiger, and so I cannot help this problem directly. Does built-in fink work? Did you restart emacs after you removed carbon-emacs-builtin-aspell.el? Thank you for your feedbacks. Seiji Zenitani From matsuan at ca2.so-net.ne.jp Sat May 21 15:32:15 2005 From: matsuan at ca2.so-net.ne.jp (Takashi Hiromatsu) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 15:32:15 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 83] carbon-font is just changed on CVS head Message-ID: Dear all, carbon-font was modified for Tiger support. You can get it from CVS head. http://cvs.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/macemacsjp/carbon_font/ Kind regards, Takashi Hiromatsu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- carbon-font ? CVS Head ?????????? Tiger ? Ayuthaya ?????????????Monaco ???????????? ???Font??Lucida sans typewriter ?????????? http://cvs.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/macemacsjp/carbon_font/ ?? From david.reitter at gmail.com Mon May 23 05:29:46 2005 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 21:29:46 +0100 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 84] deleting source (.el) files (leim: quail, ja-dic) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I was wondering if it is, in principle, alright to delete certain big .el source files from an Emacs distribution, in particular leim/quail/*.el leim/ja-dic/*.el I don't know if the dictionary and input methods need to have access to the source file, or if people use it for anything. Comments appreciated. David From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Mon May 23 21:56:33 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 21:56:33 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 85] Re: deleting source (.el) files (leim: quail, ja-dic) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi David, > I was wondering if it is, in principle, alright to delete certain > big .el source files from an Emacs distribution, in particular > > leim/quail/*.el > leim/ja-dic/*.el > > I don't know if the dictionary and input methods need to have access > to the source file, or if people use it for anything. > Comments appreciated. > At least you can remove the dictionary and then your distribution become slimmer by 2MB (0.5MB in compressed form). I'm not sure whether quail/*.el files can be removed, but it might be a reasonable choice. However, it is strongly recommend that all source files are available to the users because Emacs is GPL'ed software. How about providing both an Emacs distribution (without big *.el files) and its complete- source-files.tar.gz? Sincerely, Seiji Zenitani zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Sat May 28 15:31:05 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 15:31:05 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 86] Some minor issues Message-ID: <9BB7D255-D7E1-460C-B4C1-F28BEB1F0FE6@tkg.att.ne.jp> Hi, To 10.4.0 users: It is reported that the latest Emacs (May '05 v3) for 10.4.1 also works on 10.4. http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-e.html To Korean 10.3 users: In the last Panther version (Apr. '05), Hangul characters are not displayed in the dired-mode due to a bug in mac-utf code. Please use the previous version (Mar. '05) instead. Otherwise, obtain the latest mac-utf.el from http://sourceforge.jp/projects/macemacsjp/files/ and then install it to the site-lisp/mac directory. best wishes, Seiji Zenitani