From Martin.Buchmann at uni-jena.de Fri Apr 1 21:54:16 2005 From: Martin.Buchmann at uni-jena.de (Martin Buchmann) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 14:54:16 +0200 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 24] Question regarding mac-utf Message-ID: <424D4478.308@uni-jena.de> Hi all, i came across the FAQ section on the Emacswiki pages and found something about the package mac-utf which i think could help me. I'm using Carbon Emacs 22.0.50.1 installed via darwinPorts on a german MacOS X 10.3.8 and in dired mode german umlauts like '?' are display as '\344' in the date column and as a and blank character. If i set (setenv "LC_ALL" "C") the '?' in the date are displayed as 'a'. Thanks to Seiji Zenitani for this hint. I installed mule-ucs and mac-utf and guess it's working fine because i don't see any complains during startup. But if i try to invoke dired mode i only get an error message (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil) nothing more, i.e. not dir is displayed :-( Could someone please tell me if the package is helpfull for me at all and what's going wrong when i invoke dired. Here's Backtrace's output: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil) -(nil 4449) (setq vindex (- ch2 vbase)) (while (not (eobp)) (setq ch2 (char-to-ucs ...)) (setq lindex (- ch1 lbase)) (setq vindex (- ch2 vbase)) (setq sindex (- ch1 sbase)) (setq tindex (- ch2 tbase)) (if (and ... ... ... ...) (progn ... ... ... ... ...) (if ... ... ...))) (let* ((ch1 nil) (ch2 nil) (sbase 44032) (lbase 4352) (vbase 4449) (tbase 4519) (lcount 19) (vcount 21) (tcount 28) (ncount ...) (scount ...) (lindex nil) (vindex nil) (sindex nil) (tindex nil)) (setq ch1 (char-to-ucs ...)) (if (not ...) (forward-char)) (while (not ...) (setq ch2 ...) (setq lindex ...) (setq vindex ...) (setq sindex ...) (setq tindex ...) (if ... ... ...))) (save-excursion (let* (... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...) (setq ch1 ...) (if ... ...) (while ... ... ... ... ... ... ...))) mac-utf-post-read-hangul-conversion(2227) un-define-post-read-conversion(2227) decode-coding-region(1 2208 utf-8) insert-directory("/" "-al" nil t) dired-insert-directory("/" "-al" nil nil t) dired-readin-insert() dired-readin() dired-internal-noselect("/" nil) dired-noselect("/" nil) dired("/" nil) call-interactively(dired) Any hint is apreciated, best regards Martin -- Ever notice that even the busiest people are never too busy to tell you just how busy they are. From jay at fleeingrabbit.com Fri Apr 1 22:17:12 2005 From: jay at fleeingrabbit.com (Jay Cotton) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 08:17:12 -0500 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 25] Site-Lisp directory Message-ID: <9090ea421f3f3a7679b1f22720e4274f@fleeingrabbit.com> Hello, I am trying your emacs for OS X and I like it very much. (Previously, I had been using an earlier "carbonized" emacs that was pretty good, but I would like to be using something under more active development.) It has a behavior which has prompted this message. While emacs is starting up, and loading all the packages and so forth from my .emacs file, everything goes fine until the very end. At the end, the window suddenly enlarges and the font gets bigger, and then it finishes loading. In other words, something is overriding my customizations (I purposefully have the default frame and font very small). I poked around and found the culprit in a directory called site-start.d inside the site-lisp directory. Here's the code that was causing the problem until I commented it out: ;; Osaka 12 (require 'carbon-font) (set-default-font "fontset-osaka12") (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "fontset-osaka12")) I've heard of the site-start file, and so it doesn't surprise me that there would be a site-start directory as well. My question is this: shouldn't the customizations that I have in my .emacs file override anything in site-lisp files or directories (not the other way around)? Thanks for any information. Jay From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Fri Apr 1 22:38:50 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 22:38:50 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 26] Re: Site-Lisp directory In-Reply-To: <9090ea421f3f3a7679b1f22720e4274f@fleeingrabbit.com> References: <9090ea421f3f3a7679b1f22720e4274f@fleeingrabbit.com> Message-ID: Hi, On 2005/04/01, at 22:17, Jay Cotton wrote: > > It has a behavior which has prompted this message. While emacs is > starting up, and loading all the packages and so forth from my .emacs > file, everything goes fine until the very end. At the end, the window > suddenly enlarges and the font gets bigger, and then it finishes > loading. In other words, something is overriding my customizations (I > purposefully have the default frame and font very small). > > I poked around and found the culprit in a directory called site-start.d > inside the site-lisp directory. Here's the code that was causing the > problem until I commented it out: > > ;; Osaka 12 > (require 'carbon-font) > (set-default-font "fontset-osaka12") > (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "fontset-osaka12")) > > I've heard of the site-start file, and so it doesn't surprise me that > there would be a site-start directory as well. My question is this: > shouldn't the customizations that I have in my .emacs file override > anything in site-lisp files or directories (not the other way around)? > The easiest way is to open the site-start.d directory and to remove carbon-emacs-fontset.el file into the Trash. Files in that directory are not always necessary. By the way, the below line in that file may be useful for you. If you like it, add the line to your .emacs.el. (setq mac-allow-anti-aliasing t) best wishes Seiji From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Fri Apr 1 23:06:50 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 23:06:50 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 27] Re: Question regarding mac-utf In-Reply-To: <424D4478.308@uni-jena.de> References: <424D4478.308@uni-jena.de> Message-ID: <6b85a07b199453b175621c2efbdb4b6b@tkg.att.ne.jp> Hi, On 2005/04/01, at 21:54, Martin Buchmann wrote: > I installed mule-ucs and mac-utf and guess it's working fine because i > don't see any complains during startup. But if i try to invoke dired > mode i only get an error message (wrong-type-argument > number-or-marker-p > nil) nothing more, i.e. not dir is displayed :-( > > Could someone please tell me if the package is helpfull for me at all > and what's going wrong when i invoke dired. > Could show us more information? For example, * relevant .emacs lines * filenames you would like to view in dired-mode * Is that a Gentoo-specific problem? At present, mac-utf only fixes the problem in Japanese and Korean languages but if anyone find German extension, I would like to merge it into the mac-utf file. Seiji From jay at fleeingrabbit.com Sat Apr 2 00:40:09 2005 From: jay at fleeingrabbit.com (Jay Cotton) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:40:09 -0500 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 28] Command-~ Message-ID: (Please excuse the duplicate of this message that I sent from the wrong email address.) Hello, I am continuing to enjoy this emacs for OS X. However, something is confusing me. In some buffers, I can switch to the other frame by typing Command-` (this is the keyboard shortcut for switching windows in most OS X apps, as I'm sure you know). But, in many buffers this doesn't work. Instead, I get an error: "A-` is undefined" I used the information from the error message to attempt to add the following to my .emacs file: (global-set-key "\A-`" 'other-frame) But this doesn't work. Any help would be appreciated! Jay From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Sat Apr 2 14:17:45 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 14:17:45 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 29] Re: Command-~ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <04eca15018d6c3a8d167f30b66be6537@tkg.att.ne.jp> Hi, At my hand, the below lines work fine. (setq mac-command-key-is-meta nil) (global-set-key [(alt \`)] 'other-frame) Also, I'll add this to mac-key-mode, a minor mode that provides mac-style keybindings. Seiji On 2005/04/02, at 0:40, Jay Cotton wrote: > (Please excuse the duplicate of this message that I sent from the wrong > email address.) > > Hello, > > I am continuing to enjoy this emacs for OS X. However, something is > confusing me. In some buffers, I can switch to the other frame by > typing Command-` (this is the keyboard shortcut for switching windows > in most OS X apps, as I'm sure you know). But, in many buffers this > doesn't work. Instead, I get an error: "A-` is undefined" > > I used the information from the error message to attempt to add the > following to my .emacs file: > > (global-set-key "\A-`" 'other-frame) > > But this doesn't work. Any help would be appreciated! > > Jay > > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > From Martin.Buchmann at uni-jena.de Sat Apr 2 21:51:01 2005 From: Martin.Buchmann at uni-jena.de (Martin Buchmann) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 14:51:01 +0200 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 30] Re: Question regarding mac-utf In-Reply-To: <20050402030051.5236410BA5E@lists.sourceforge.jp> References: <20050402030051.5236410BA5E@lists.sourceforge.jp> Message-ID: <424E9535.4050907@uni-jena.de> Hi Seiji, > Could show us more information? For example, > > * relevant .emacs lines Sure! I'm not sure what is relevant and what not but i guess that should be a start: (require 'mac-utf) (setq mac-keyboard-text-encoding kTextEncodingMacRoman) (set-keyboard-coding-system 'mac-roman) (set-selection-coding-system 'mac-roman) (set-variable 'file-name-coding-system 'utf-8) (set-variable 'default-buffer-file-coding-system 'mac-roman-unix) (set-language-environment 'German) (prefer-coding-system 'mac-roman-unix) > * filenames you would like to view in dired-mode E.g. 'Pr?parationen' is displayed as 'Pra parationen' > * Is that a Gentoo-specific problem? Hmm, i must say that i don't know what Gentoo stands for, sorry! > At present, mac-utf only fixes the problem in Japanese and Korean > languages but if anyone find German extension, I would like to merge it > into the mac-utf file. Sounds great even if i dont have a clue what i can do to help you :-) Best regards Martin From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Sun Apr 3 10:26:28 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 10:26:28 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 31] Re: Question regarding mac-utf In-Reply-To: <424E9535.4050907@uni-jena.de> References: <20050402030051.5236410BA5E@lists.sourceforge.jp> <424E9535.4050907@uni-jena.de> Message-ID: <8062aa146e09cec94e422a4a07360ecf@tkg.att.ne.jp> Hi, >> * Is that a Gentoo-specific problem? > > Hmm, i must say that i don't know what Gentoo stands for, sorry! > Sorry, I was confusing. Gentoo is one of linux distribution. Is that a darwinPorts-specific problem? Seiji From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Sun Apr 3 14:54:12 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:54:12 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 32] Carbon Emacs Package (Apr. '05) Message-ID: <379a45bbdcf9a438f54cbcd558f321fa@tkg.att.ne.jp> ?????????????E???????? ???????????????`???????????????_?????????? http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-j.html ?????????????????????????? ??1. Emacs 22 (CVS 20050327) ?????`???????? ??2. ?????????O?????????????? ?E?? ---------------------------------------- Hi all, Carbon Emacs Package (Apr. '05) is available at: http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-e.html * based on Emacs 22.0.50 (CVS 2005-03-27) * improved fontsets (??, ?? etc) Seiji Zenitani From shug.boabby at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 04:16:55 2005 From: shug.boabby at gmail.com (Shug Boabby) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:16:55 +0100 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 33] Re: Carbon Emacs Package (Apr. '05) In-Reply-To: <379a45bbdcf9a438f54cbcd558f321fa@tkg.att.ne.jp> References: <379a45bbdcf9a438f54cbcd558f321fa@tkg.att.ne.jp> Message-ID: On 3 Apr 2005, at 06:54, Seiji Zenitani wrote: > Carbon Emacs Package (Apr. '05) is available > * improved fontsets (?, ? etc) hi there, is this supposed to work "out of the box"? i still get empty boxes instead of the euro symbol and the webpage boasts that it should work. in my .emacs i have: (set-keyboard-coding-system 'mac-roman) (setq current-language-environment '"Latin-9") (setq default-input-method '"latin-9-prefix") is there anything else i need? From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Mon Apr 4 07:36:49 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 07:36:49 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 34] Re: Carbon Emacs Package (Apr. '05) In-Reply-To: References: <379a45bbdcf9a438f54cbcd558f321fa@tkg.att.ne.jp> Message-ID: On 2005/04/04, at 4:16, Shug Boabby wrote: > On 3 Apr 2005, at 06:54, Seiji Zenitani wrote: >> Carbon Emacs Package (Apr. '05) is available > >> * improved fontsets (?, ? etc) > > hi there, > > is this supposed to work "out of the box"? i still get empty boxes > instead of the euro symbol and the webpage boasts that it should work. > > in my .emacs i have: > (set-keyboard-coding-system 'mac-roman) > (setq current-language-environment '"Latin-9") > (setq default-input-method '"latin-9-prefix") > > is there anything else i need? The above lines seem to be OK. When I type C-\ ~ e the euro symbol ? is printed on the screen. Are you using the default fontset? or your own? Seiji From shug.boabby at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 07:37:18 2005 From: shug.boabby at gmail.com (Shug Boabby) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 23:37:18 +0100 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 35] Re: Carbon Emacs Package (Apr. '05) In-Reply-To: References: <379a45bbdcf9a438f54cbcd558f321fa@tkg.att.ne.jp> Message-ID: <0a83591370e6fdc6e2aab970c1161b93@gmail.com> On 3 Apr 2005, at 23:36, Seiji Zenitani wrote: > On 2005/04/04, at 4:16, Shug Boabby wrote: >> On 3 Apr 2005, at 06:54, Seiji Zenitani wrote: >>> Carbon Emacs Package (Apr. '05) is available >> >>> * improved fontsets (?, ? etc) >> >> hi there, >> >> is this supposed to work "out of the box"? i still get empty boxes >> instead of the euro symbol and the webpage boasts that it should work. >> >> in my .emacs i have: >> (set-keyboard-coding-system 'mac-roman) >> (setq current-language-environment '"Latin-9") >> (setq default-input-method '"latin-9-prefix") >> >> is there anything else i need? > > The above lines seem to be OK. When I type > C-\ ~ e > the euro symbol ? is printed on the screen. > Are you using the default fontset? or your own? ok, that also gets me the ? symbol. HOWEVER, that is not a standard way to enter the euro symbol... i get it by typing alt-2 (some say option-2) as the british iBook G4 keyboard was designed that way. how can i fix it to work? this now seems to be a keyboard issue and not a font one... From Martin.Buchmann at uni-jena.de Mon Apr 4 17:35:16 2005 From: Martin.Buchmann at uni-jena.de (Martin Buchmann) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 10:35:16 +0200 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 36] Re: Question regarding mac-utf In-Reply-To: <20050403030050.A2DA910BA81@lists.sourceforge.jp> References: <20050403030050.A2DA910BA81@lists.sourceforge.jp> Message-ID: <4250FC44.7030704@uni-jena.de> Hi Seiji, > Sorry, I was confusing. Gentoo is one of linux distribution. > Is that a darwinPorts-specific problem? I don't think so, because i get the same results with the latest Carbon Emacs Package i just downloaded from http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-e.html When i just start it dired is not working, when i remove the cabon-emacs-japanese-*.el files as suggested in the ReadMe dired is working but the german Umlauts are not displayed correctly. Does this give you any clue? BTW: When will the window opacity patch become part of CVS? Best regards Martin -- "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!" -- Vroomfondel From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Mon Apr 4 18:35:23 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 18:35:23 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 37] Re: Question regarding mac-utf In-Reply-To: <4250FC44.7030704@uni-jena.de> References: <20050403030050.A2DA910BA81@lists.sourceforge.jp> <4250FC44.7030704@uni-jena.de> Message-ID: <9786bbd7194c1ac0a09053207ad1c059@tkg.att.ne.jp> Hi Martin, On 2005/04/04, at 17:35, Martin Buchmann wrote: > Hi Seiji, > >> Sorry, I was confusing. Gentoo is one of linux distribution. >> Is that a darwinPorts-specific problem? > > I don't think so, because i get the same results with the latest Carbon > Emacs Package i just downloaded from > > http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-e.html > > When i just start it dired is not working, when i remove the > cabon-emacs-japanese-*.el files as suggested in the ReadMe dired is > working but the german Umlauts are not displayed correctly. > > Does this give you any clue? > Dired is WORKING (in both cases of with/without cabon-emacs-japanese-init.el) though umlauts are displayed as white squares. Is this right? If so, there is hope. I am improving an alpha code week by week. (http://homepage.mac.com/zenitani/.Public/screen.jpg) > BTW: When will the window opacity patch become part of CVS? > Ask Hiromatsu-san (the author of the opacity patch). IMHO, the patch is ready to go. Seiji From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Mon Apr 4 19:04:02 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:04:02 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 38] Re: Carbon Emacs Package (Apr. '05) In-Reply-To: <0a83591370e6fdc6e2aab970c1161b93@gmail.com> References: <379a45bbdcf9a438f54cbcd558f321fa@tkg.att.ne.jp> <0a83591370e6fdc6e2aab970c1161b93@gmail.com> Message-ID: <69cf4322fb973f086cba0d6743972711@tkg.att.ne.jp> On 2005/04/04, at 7:37, Shug Boabby wrote: >> >> The above lines seem to be OK. When I type >> C-\ ~ e >> the euro symbol ? is printed on the screen. >> Are you using the default fontset? or your own? > > ok, that also gets me the ? symbol. HOWEVER, that is not a standard way > to enter the euro symbol... i get it by typing alt-2 (some say > option-2) as the british iBook G4 keyboard was designed that way. how > can i fix it to work? > Hi, currently I don't know. Do European people have any good idea? Seiji From Martin.Buchmann at uni-jena.de Tue Apr 5 18:08:51 2005 From: Martin.Buchmann at uni-jena.de (Martin Buchmann) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:08:51 +0200 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 39] Re: Question regarding mac-utf In-Reply-To: <20050405030051.E841310BAAF@lists.sourceforge.jp> References: <20050405030051.E841310BAAF@lists.sourceforge.jp> Message-ID: <425255A3.5090505@uni-jena.de> Hi Seiji, Seiji Zenitani said the following on 05.04.2005 5:00 Uhr: > Dired is WORKING (in both cases of with/without > cabon-emacs-japanese-init.el) though umlauts are displayed as white > squares. Is this right? No, Dired is working if i'm not loading mac-utf. Then umlauts are displayed as white squares, as can be seen here: http://www.uni-jena.de/~p4buma/downloads/Example1.jpg If i load mac-utf and try to invoke Dired by pressing C-x d i just get the following error: setq: Wrong type argument: number-or-marker-p, nil But, if i set (setenv "LC_ALL" "C") in my .emacs after requiring mac-utf the umlauts are displayed as white squares too! I just found this out while writing this mail. So, my first no from above is wrong. > If so, there is hope. I am improving an alpha > code week by week. > (http://homepage.mac.com/zenitani/.Public/screen.jpg) That look's good to me :-) Thanks for your efforts! Martin -- Electrocution, n.: Burning at the stake with all the modern improvements. From Martin.Buchmann at uni-jena.de Thu Apr 7 00:59:47 2005 From: Martin.Buchmann at uni-jena.de (Martin Buchmann) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:59:47 +0200 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 40] Problem with ` Message-ID: <42540773.7040206@uni-jena.de> Hi all, i just gave your CarbonEmacs a try and it looks great. I like the opacity ;-) But there's a problem :-( I just copied my site-start.el and everything worked fine until i tried to use AUCTeX Next-Error-command via "C-c `". I just get the message C-c ESC is not defined :-( Using darwinports CarbonEmacs this was working without any problem. Here's the interessting section of my .emacs: (setq mac-keyboard-text-encoding kTextEncodingMacRoman) (set-keyboard-coding-system 'mac-roman) (set-selection-coding-system 'mac-roman) (set-variable 'file-name-coding-system 'utf-8) (set-variable 'default-buffer-file-coding-system 'mac-roman-unix) (set-language-environment 'German) (prefer-coding-system 'mac-roman-unix) Is there another german users with similar problems? Any help is appreciated Martin -- Eeny, Meeny, Jelly Beanie, the spirits are about to speak! -- Bullwinkle Moose From shug.boabby at gmail.com Fri Apr 8 12:25:59 2005 From: shug.boabby at gmail.com (Shug Boabby) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 04:25:59 +0100 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 41] dvorak Message-ID: hi, i just switched to a dvorak layout... but emacs is the only app on my system which is broken. single keys work but sequences still assume a qwerty layout. eg me typing C-q C-j is what actually sends the sequence for C-x C-c, whereas me typing C-x C-c is being interpreted as C-b C-i!! this is a serious bug!!! but in the meantime how can i fix it? From sakito at s2.xrea.com Fri Apr 8 22:57:09 2005 From: sakito at s2.xrea.com (sakito) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 22:57:09 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 42] Re: dvorak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200504081357.j38DvQMu019754@mx05.ms.so-net.ne.jp> hi Dvorak Keyboard in Emacs http://www.matthewweathers.com/year2004/emacs_dvorak.htm Do you serve as a reference? At Fri, 8 Apr 2005 04:25:59 +0100, Shug Boabby wrote: > > hi, > > i just switched to a dvorak layout... but emacs is the only app on my > system which is broken. single keys work but sequences still assume a > qwerty layout. eg me typing C-q C-j is what actually sends the sequence > for C-x C-c, whereas me typing C-x C-c is being interpreted as C-b > C-i!! > > this is a serious bug!!! but in the meantime how can i fix it? > > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english ---- sakito http://sakito.s2.xrea.com/ mailto:sakito at s2.xrea.com MacEmacs JP Project: Project Summary http://sourceforge.jp/projects/macemacsjp/ From shug.boabby at gmail.com Sat Apr 9 00:25:52 2005 From: shug.boabby at gmail.com (Shug Boabby) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:25:52 +0100 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 43] Re: dvorak In-Reply-To: <200504081357.j38DvQMu019754@mx05.ms.so-net.ne.jp> References: <200504081357.j38DvQMu019754@mx05.ms.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: <089f54d40a3909425fa8f143f955dda2@gmail.com> On 8 Apr 2005, at 14:57, sakito wrote: > Dvorak Keyboard in Emacs > http://www.matthewweathers.com/year2004/emacs_dvorak.htm hi sakito, that is not the same thing. that mode is for people with a qwerty layout but wish to use a dvorak layout in emacs i actually *have* a dvorak layout, but Carbon Emacs assumes a qwerty layout for escape sequences. this is a carbon specific bug as the command line version works ok > Do you serve as a reference? i'm sorry, i do not understand > Shug Boabby wrote: >> i just switched to a dvorak layout... but emacs is the only app on my >> system which is broken. single keys work but sequences still assume a >> qwerty layout. eg me typing C-q C-j is what actually sends the >> sequence >> for C-x C-c, whereas me typing C-x C-c is being interpreted as C-b >> C-i!! >> >> this is a serious bug!!! but in the meantime how can i fix it? From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Sat Apr 9 14:57:23 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:57:23 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 44] Re: Question regarding mac-utf In-Reply-To: <425255A3.5090505@uni-jena.de> References: <20050405030051.E841310BAAF@lists.sourceforge.jp> <425255A3.5090505@uni-jena.de> Message-ID: <84b9d0dc49ae46dd1f602161478f885c@tkg.att.ne.jp> Hi, On 2005/04/05, at 18:08, Martin Buchmann wrote: > > But, if i set (setenv "LC_ALL" "C") in my .emacs after requiring > mac-utf > the umlauts are displayed as white squares too! I just found this out > while writing this mail. So, my first no from above is wrong. > >> If so, there is hope. I am improving an alpha >> code week by week. >> (http://homepage.mac.com/zenitani/.Public/screen.jpg) > > That look's good to me :-) Thanks for your efforts! An experimental version of mac-utf is available at http://sourceforge.jp/projects/macemacsjp/files/. Maybe accent characters such as ???? are now displayed. Note that mac-utf is one-way encoding converter and so there may be data-inconsistency problems. Seiji P.S. As long as I am using AUCTeX, "C-c `" works fine. Any hints? From Martin.Buchmann at uni-jena.de Mon Apr 11 17:24:22 2005 From: Martin.Buchmann at uni-jena.de (Martin Buchmann) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:24:22 +0200 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 45] Re: Question regarding mac-utf In-Reply-To: <20050410030049.E452910B9CA@lists.sourceforge.jp> References: <20050410030049.E452910B9CA@lists.sourceforge.jp> Message-ID: <425A3436.4080701@uni-jena.de> Hi Seiji, > An experimental version of mac-utf is available at > http://sourceforge.jp/projects/macemacsjp/files/. Thanks a lot :-) As far as i can see it works great on my system. I'll use it and see what happens. Best regards Martin -- "I'd love to go out with you, but I never go out on days that end in `Y.'" From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Tue Apr 12 19:38:38 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:38:38 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 46] Carbon Emacs Package (Apr. '05 v2) Message-ID: <0011c25b18bdf0c1344d28b17ece4e48@tkg.att.ne.jp> ??????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ????????mac-utf, AUCTeX, mac-key-mode ?????????? http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-j.html ?? ---------------------------------------- Hi, Carbon Emacs Package (Apr. '05) is minor-updated. (mac-utf, AUCTeX, mac-key-mode) http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-e.html Seiji Zenitani From matsuan at ca2.so-net.ne.jp Sun Apr 17 08:44:03 2005 From: matsuan at ca2.so-net.ne.jp (Takashi Hiromatsu) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:44:03 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 47] transparency.patch 0.2.0 released Message-ID: Dear all, transparency.patch 0.2.0 is just released. Norm Gall informed me that 0.1.0 was broken by changes of macterm.c. Also some changes were done. 1. checking definition USE_TRANSPARENCY when compiling. Please add option when configuring CFLAGS=-DUSE_TRANSPARENCY 2. parameter check routine was added. files can be got from http://sourceforge.jp/projects/macemacsjp/files/ This is the last version before posting on emacs-dev. with kind regards Takashi Hiromatsu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- transparency.patch ? 0.2.0 ??????????Gall?????macterm.c ? ??????0.1.0 ??????????????????????????? ???????????????? 1. ????????USE_TRANSPARENCY ????????????? configure ?? CFLAGS=-DUSE_TRANSPARENCY ????????? 2. 0 - 100 ????????????????????? ????????????????? http://sourceforge.jp/projects/macemacsjp/files/ ????????emacs-dev ??????????????? ???????????? ?? From matsuan at ca2.so-net.ne.jp Sun Apr 17 15:31:02 2005 From: matsuan at ca2.so-net.ne.jp (Takashi Hiromatsu) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:31:02 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 48] carbon-font is just changed on CVS head Message-ID: Dear all, "carbon-font.el" begin supporting encodings listed in below. mac-roman-lower, mac-roman-upper, mule-unicode-0100-24ff, mule-unicode-2500-33ff, mule-unicode-e000-ffff, iso10646-1 You can get it from CVS head. http://cvs.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/macemacsjp/carbon_font/ Kind regards, Takashi Hiromatsu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Shug, Thank you for your report. Please try CVS head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- carbon-font ? CVS Head ????????????? encoding ??????? ?? mac-roman-lower, mac-roman-upper, mule-unicode-0100-24ff, mule-unicode-2500-33ff, mule-unicode-e000-ffff, iso10646-1 ??????Euro ??(alt-shift-2) ?????????????????? emacs-w3m ????????Web Page ????????????? ?? From matsuan at ca2.so-net.ne.jp Sun Apr 17 15:43:00 2005 From: matsuan at ca2.so-net.ne.jp (Takashi Hiromatsu) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:43:00 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 49] Re: [emacs-w3m:07868] W3M on Carbon Emacs In-Reply-To: <9d45b13ed37c66f94e9ecb47144fcfa3@ieee.org> References: <3d9dc296e98db24dd558a0f5771c0bce@ieee.org> <9d45b13ed37c66f94e9ecb47144fcfa3@ieee.org> Message-ID: Hi Tiago, Your reply was very helpful for me. Today I changed carbon-font on CVS head. http://cvs.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/macemacsjp/carbon_font/ > charset: mule-unicode-2500-33ff (Unicode characters of the range This suggested to add unicode-encodings to carbon-font.el. Thank you so much. Kind regards, T.Hiromatsu At Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:55:59 -0100, Tiago Maduro-Dias wrote: > > Hi Takashi! > > Here's the output on (one of) the relevant chars: > > > character: $-2?? (01110041, 299041, 0x49021, U+2501)-A > charset: mule-unicode-2500-33ff (Unicode characters of the range > U+2500..U+33FF.) > code point: 32 33 > syntax: w which means: word > buffer code: 0x9C 0xF2 0xA0 0xA1 > file code: 0xE2 0x94 0x81 (encoded by coding system mule-utf-8-unix) > display: no font available > > There are text properties here: > rear-nonsticky t > w3m-name-anchor ("updates-s" "4" "3" "2") > > > Here's the output on a random other place: > > > character: i (0151, 105, 0x69, U+0069) > charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV)) > code point: 105 > syntax: w which means: word > category: a:ASCII l:Latin > buffer code: 0x69 > file code: 0x69 (encoded by coding system mule-utf-8-unix) > display: by this font (glyph code) > -apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-m-120-mac-roman (0x69) > > There are text properties here: > rear-nonsticky t > w3m-name-anchor ("doc-intro-1" "updates-s" "4" "3" "2") > > > Tiago Maduro-Dias. > > > On 23 Mar 2005, at 12:28, Takashi Hiromatsu wrote: > > > Hi Tiago, > > > > I'm sorry my late reply, I found your mail today. I'm carbon-font > > package > > author. > > > > Please try 'C-u C-x =' on the characters that have display problem like > > table lines or corners and show us. Maybe it can help us to resolve. > > > > Takashi Hiromatsu > > > > At Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:12:37 +0000, > > Tiago Maduro-Dias wrote: > >> > >> [1 ] > >> Hey all! > >> > >> I am using the latest version of the Carbon Emacs package [1]. I was > >> very happy to rediscover w3m a couple of days ago. I have, however, > >> come across a weird problem: The table corners and lines aren't > >> displayed correctly (screenshot attached). > >> > >> The screenshot was taken using the carbon-font package [2], but I have > >> tried it with the default font and the results are the same. Included > >> in the referred package is w3m release 1.4.3. > >> > >> Thanks in advance, > >> > >> Tiago Maduro-Dias. > >> > >> References: > >> [1] - http://home.att.ne.jp/alpha/z123/emacs-mac-e.html > >> [2] - http://macemacsjp.sourceforge.jp/index.php?MacFontSetting > >> > >> [2 w3m-grab.jpg ] > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > macemacsjp-english mailing list > > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > > > > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > From jay at fleeingrabbit.com Mon Apr 18 01:31:52 2005 From: jay at fleeingrabbit.com (Jay Cotton) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:31:52 -0400 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 49] .emacs and site-start.el Message-ID: <2212e997c00a7562dc930fcf97d2d76e@fleeingrabbit.com> Hello, I have noticed that the site-start.el file is loaded after my .emacs file, when emacs is starting up. Is this the intended behavior? The effect is that several of my own customizations are overwritten by the distribution. Thanks for any insight. I am enjoying this distribution very much! Jay From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Mon Apr 18 02:25:43 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 02:25:43 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 50] Re: .emacs and site-start.el In-Reply-To: <2212e997c00a7562dc930fcf97d2d76e@fleeingrabbit.com> References: <2212e997c00a7562dc930fcf97d2d76e@fleeingrabbit.com> Message-ID: Hi, As far as I know, the site-start.el file is loaded before the .emacs file. Could you explain more details? What customizations are overwritten? Seiji On 2005/04/18, at 1:31, Jay Cotton wrote: > Hello, > > I have noticed that the site-start.el file is loaded after my .emacs > file, when emacs is starting up. Is this the intended behavior? The > effect is that several of my own customizations are overwritten by the > distribution. > > Thanks for any insight. I am enjoying this distribution very much! > > Jay > > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > From jay at fleeingrabbit.com Mon Apr 18 03:31:07 2005 From: jay at fleeingrabbit.com (Jay Cotton) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:31:07 -0400 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 51] Re: .emacs and site-start.el In-Reply-To: References: <2212e997c00a7562dc930fcf97d2d76e@fleeingrabbit.com> Message-ID: <8ac6a582f05decb5be5f0cefeb1df7f2@fleeingrabbit.com> Here is how I tested this. In my site-start.el file, I placed at the end of it: (insert "Finishing Site-Start\n\n"). This should insert the string into the contents of the *scratch* buffer (that is how it works on my system). Then, in my .emacs file, I put, at the end of it, (insert "Finishing .emacs\n\n"), which also inserts the string argument into the *scratch* buffer. When I start emacs, it produces this for my *scratch* buffer: finishing .emacs finishing site-start.el I am not an emacs expert, but this seemed like an ok test. Is it possible that the buffer insertions could be output in a different order? (I don't know.) The first time I noticed this was when I first tried the distribution and it overwrote my font size. As the program loaded, I could watch the default font change to my preference, stay there for a few seconds, and then it would change to a larger size. Then, I would run my .emacs file manually and the font would go back to my preferred size and stay there. Today I was having a different problem: my customized css-mode.el file, which I keep in my lisp directory and adjust frequently, was not loading properly. So I devised the above test. Thanks for your help. Overall this seems to be a very good mac emacs pkg. Jay On Apr 17, 2005, at 1:25 PM, Seiji Zenitani wrote: > Hi, > > As far as I know, the site-start.el file is loaded before the .emacs > file. > Could you explain more details? What customizations are overwritten? > > Seiji > > On 2005/04/18, at 1:31, Jay Cotton wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I have noticed that the site-start.el file is loaded after my .emacs >> file, when emacs is starting up. Is this the intended behavior? The >> effect is that several of my own customizations are overwritten by the >> distribution. >> >> Thanks for any insight. I am enjoying this distribution very much! >> >> Jay >> >> _______________________________________________ >> macemacsjp-english mailing list >> macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp >> http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english >> > > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > > Jay Cotton www.littlecottoncoop.com From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Mon Apr 18 21:37:20 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:37:20 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 52] Re: .emacs and site-start.el In-Reply-To: <8ac6a582f05decb5be5f0cefeb1df7f2@fleeingrabbit.com> References: <2212e997c00a7562dc930fcf97d2d76e@fleeingrabbit.com> <8ac6a582f05decb5be5f0cefeb1df7f2@fleeingrabbit.com> Message-ID: Hi, On 2005/04/18, at 3:31, Jay Cotton wrote: > Here is how I tested this. In my site-start.el file, I placed at the > end of it: (insert "Finishing Site-Start\n\n"). This should insert the > string into the contents of the *scratch* buffer (that is how it works > on my system). Then, in my .emacs file, I put, at the end of it, > (insert "Finishing .emacs\n\n"), which also inserts the string argument > into the *scratch* buffer. When I start emacs, it produces this for my > *scratch* buffer: > > finishing .emacs > > finishing site-start.el > > I am not an emacs expert, but this seemed like an ok test. Is it > possible that the buffer insertions could be output in a different > order? (I don't know.) As far as I tested, there seems to be no problem. I put (message "Finishing .emacs") and (message "Finishing Site-Start") and then I found the below lines in the *Messages* buffer. Finishing Site-Start Finishing .emacs Note that (message) is better than (insert). If some procedure triggers (beginning-of-buffer) or something, the order in the *scratch* buffer is easily disturbed. > The first time I noticed this was when I first tried the distribution > and it overwrote my font size. As the program loaded, I could watch the > default font change to my preference, stay there for a few seconds, and > then it would change to a larger size. Then, I would run my .emacs file > manually and the font would go back to my preferred size and stay > there. > How do you set your fontset? The default settings are as follows: (set-default-font "fontset-osaka12") (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "fontset-osaka12")) Since Carbon Emacs's frame-related settings are possibly evaluated in the later stage of startup, be sure to override the above two settings. (set-default-font "something") (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "something")) > Today I was having a different problem: my customized css-mode.el file, > which I keep in my lisp directory and adjust frequently, was not > loading properly. So I devised the above test. > Did you checked your load-path? Seiji From jay at fleeingrabbit.com Tue Apr 19 00:39:54 2005 From: jay at fleeingrabbit.com (Jay Cotton) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:39:54 -0400 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 53] Re: .emacs and site-start.el In-Reply-To: References: <2212e997c00a7562dc930fcf97d2d76e@fleeingrabbit.com> <8ac6a582f05decb5be5f0cefeb1df7f2@fleeingrabbit.com> Message-ID: <36943e2835fcdbeda77720c9194c925c@fleeingrabbit.com> Hi, Thanks for your response. I tried your method (using 'message instead of 'insert). This time the messages appeared in the proper order: finishing site-start.el finishing .emacs Very interesting. I agree that the message function seems like a much better choice for observing the order that things happened. I am curious about your comment: > Since Carbon Emacs's frame-related settings are possibly evaluated in > the later stage of startup, be sure to override the above two settings. It would be nice if there was a way to say something in the .emacs file to the effect of: evaluate this expression *last*, after everything else has happened to get this system up and running. I'll look in my elisp manual and try to learn more about the startup process. Jay On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:37 AM, Seiji Zenitani wrote: > Hi, > > On 2005/04/18, at 3:31, Jay Cotton wrote: > >> Here is how I tested this. In my site-start.el file, I placed at the >> end of it: (insert "Finishing Site-Start\n\n"). This should insert the >> string into the contents of the *scratch* buffer (that is how it works >> on my system). Then, in my .emacs file, I put, at the end of it, >> (insert "Finishing .emacs\n\n"), which also inserts the string >> argument >> into the *scratch* buffer. When I start emacs, it produces this for my >> *scratch* buffer: >> >> finishing .emacs >> >> finishing site-start.el >> >> I am not an emacs expert, but this seemed like an ok test. Is it >> possible that the buffer insertions could be output in a different >> order? (I don't know.) > > As far as I tested, there seems to be no problem. I put (message > "Finishing .emacs") and (message "Finishing Site-Start") and then I > found the below lines in the *Messages* buffer. > > Finishing Site-Start > Finishing .emacs > > Note that (message) is better than (insert). If some procedure triggers > (beginning-of-buffer) or something, the order in the *scratch* buffer > is easily disturbed. > > >> The first time I noticed this was when I first tried the distribution >> and it overwrote my font size. As the program loaded, I could watch >> the >> default font change to my preference, stay there for a few seconds, >> and >> then it would change to a larger size. Then, I would run my .emacs >> file >> manually and the font would go back to my preferred size and stay >> there. >> > How do you set your fontset? > > The default settings are as follows: > > (set-default-font "fontset-osaka12") > (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "fontset-osaka12")) > > Since Carbon Emacs's frame-related settings are possibly evaluated in > the later stage of startup, be sure to override the above two settings. > > (set-default-font "something") > (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "something")) > > >> Today I was having a different problem: my customized css-mode.el >> file, >> which I keep in my lisp directory and adjust frequently, was not >> loading properly. So I devised the above test. >> > Did you checked your load-path? > > > Seiji > > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > > Jay Cotton www.littlecottoncoop.com From zorton at jtan.com Mon Apr 25 08:58:45 2005 From: zorton at jtan.com (Justin Burket (KL1RL)) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:58:45 -0800 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 54] Cut and Paste from OSX apps? Message-ID: Hello, Thanks to all that have worked on this distribution of emacs for OSX. It truly has been drag and drop. I've had few problems except the following. I have been unable to copy text from any other application to paste into emacs. I'm running the April release. Any thoughts? Justin KL1RL Fairbanks AK From simon at pushface.org Mon Apr 25 14:07:19 2005 From: simon at pushface.org (Simon Wright) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:07:19 +0100 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 55] Ediff problem with menu bar Message-ID: Hello, After (and during) an Ediff session, the menu bar disappears when Emacs has the focus. The only way I've found to get it back is to terminate the Emacs session & start again -- not the Right Way with Emacs!Is there a better way? -- Simon Wright 100% Ada - no bugs From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Mon Apr 25 15:42:58 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:42:58 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 56] Re: Ediff problem with menu bar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, Due to the hide-menubar patch, the menu bar and the Dock disappear when menu-bar-mode is turned off. Try M-x menu-bar-mode. Does Ediff unexpectedly invoke menu-bar-mode? If so, I will consider whether the patch should be applied. -- Seiji Zenitani On 2005/04/25, at 14:07, Simon Wright wrote: > Hello, > > After (and during) an Ediff session, the menu bar disappears when Emacs > has > the focus. The only way I've found to get it back is to terminate the > Emacs > session & start again -- not the Right Way with Emacs!Is there a better > way? > > -- > Simon Wright > 100% Ada - no bugs > > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Mon Apr 25 15:56:32 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:56:32 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 57] Re: Cut and Paste from OSX apps? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <558cff3b359247b551bf5f792d6ac786@tkg.att.ne.jp> On 2005/04/19, at 0:39, Jay Cotton wrote: > It would be nice if there was a way to say something in the .emacs file > to the effect of: evaluate this expression *last*, after everything > else has happened to get this system up and running. I'll look in my > elisp manual and try to learn more about the startup process. > > Jay Check "after-init-hook". According to the manual, that hook is evaluated in the last stage of startup process. > Normal hook run after loading the init files, `~/.emacs' and > `default.el'. > There is no `condition-case' around the running of these functions; > therefore, if you set `debug-on-error' non-nil in `.emacs', > an error in one of these functions will invoke the debugger. On 2005/04/25, at 8:58, Justin Burket (KL1RL) wrote: > Hello, > > Thanks to all that have worked on this distribution of emacs for OSX. > It truly has been drag and drop. I've had few problems except the > following. I have been unable to copy text from any other application > to paste into emacs. I'm running the April release. > > Any thoughts? > Justin KL1RL > Fairbanks AK Probably it depends on your clipboard coding system. By default, it is set to Shift-JIS-mac (standard encoding in Japan) and it may not fit to your system. (set-clipboard-coding-system 'sjis-mac) For example, could you please change the coding system by adding the below line to your .emacs.el? Dear all, what encoding are you using? (set-clipboard-coding-system 'mac-roman) -- Seiji Zenitani From zorton at jtan.com Mon Apr 25 16:28:13 2005 From: zorton at jtan.com (Justin Burket (KL1RL)) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:28:13 -0800 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 58] Re: Cut and Paste from OSX apps? In-Reply-To: <558cff3b359247b551bf5f792d6ac786@tkg.att.ne.jp> References: <558cff3b359247b551bf5f792d6ac786@tkg.att.ne.jp> Message-ID: <5f6a0b385eecc4ef4d4e5f5d9cdc5462@jtan.com> > Probably it depends on your clipboard coding system. By default, it is > set to Shift-JIS-mac (standard encoding in Japan) and it may not fit to > your system. > > (set-clipboard-coding-system 'sjis-mac) > > For example, could you please change the coding system by adding the > below line to your .emacs.el? Dear all, what encoding are you using? > > (set-clipboard-coding-system 'mac-roman) > How would I tell which coding system i'm using? Forgive me if this is easy or should be known by me :) I tried both mac-roman and utf-8. Neither enabled clipboard operating. Thanks, Justin KL1RL Fairbanks AK From matsuan at ca2.so-net.ne.jp Mon Apr 25 20:40:52 2005 From: matsuan at ca2.so-net.ne.jp (Takashi Hiromatsu) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:40:52 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 59] Re: Ediff problem with menu bar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Due to the hide-menubar patch, the menu bar and the Dock disappear when > menu-bar-mode is turned off. Try M-x menu-bar-mode. Does Ediff > unexpectedly invoke menu-bar-mode? If so, I will consider whether the > patch should be applied. Why not default value of menu-bar-mode is '1? T.Hiromatsu From jfrederich at mac.com Tue Apr 26 03:17:37 2005 From: jfrederich at mac.com (Jens Frederich) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:17:37 +0200 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 60] MultiDisplay Carbon Emacs Message-ID: Hi all, I've a little question. My friend and I would coding with Emacs on the same File over to macs. How can we do this with Carbon Emacs? May be with make-frame-on-display? Jens From simon at pushface.org Tue Apr 26 04:25:58 2005 From: simon at pushface.org (Simon Wright) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:25:58 +0100 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 61] Re: Ediff problem with menu bar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7c922a70c5a7e8df4ef368fd222a1379@pushface.org> Thanks for the reply. This is the *Messages* record of a session .. ~/sf/coldframe/bugs.html and /Users/simon/cf/bugs.html are the same file Checking out /Users/simon/cf/bugs.html.~1.665~...done Computing differences between bugs.html.~1.665~ and bugs.html ... Buffer A: Processing difference region 0 of 1 Buffer B: Processing difference region 0 of 1 Processing difference regions ... done Region 1 in buffer A is empty [2 times] Quit this Ediff session? (y or n) Menu-Bar mode disabled Menu-bar mode disabled. Use M-x menu-bar-mode to make the menu bar appear. Menu-Bar mode enabled The first 'Menu-Bar mode disabled' line appeared when I said M-x menu-bar-mode. The second line appeared a second or so later. The 'Menu-Bar mode enabled' line appeared when I said M-x menu-bar-mode again; at which point I got my menu bar back. On 25 Apr 2005, at 07:42, Seiji Zenitani wrote: > Hello, > > Due to the hide-menubar patch, the menu bar and the Dock disappear when > menu-bar-mode is turned off. Try M-x menu-bar-mode. Does Ediff > unexpectedly invoke menu-bar-mode? If so, I will consider whether the > patch should be applied. > > -- > Seiji Zenitani > > On 2005/04/25, at 14:07, Simon Wright wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> After (and during) an Ediff session, the menu bar disappears when >> Emacs >> has >> the focus. The only way I've found to get it back is to terminate the >> Emacs >> session & start again -- not the Right Way with Emacs!Is there a >> better >> way? >> >> -- >> Simon Wright >> 100% Ada - no bugs >> >> _______________________________________________ >> macemacsjp-english mailing list >> macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp >> http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > > -- Simon Wright 100% Ada - no bugs From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Tue Apr 26 13:26:34 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:26:34 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 62] Re: Ediff problem with menu bar In-Reply-To: <7c922a70c5a7e8df4ef368fd222a1379@pushface.org> References: <7c922a70c5a7e8df4ef368fd222a1379@pushface.org> Message-ID: <19f0d2219f44b2be68058df2a63940e8@tkg.att.ne.jp> Hi, M-x speedbar as well as M-x ediff causes a similar problem. This is because a menu bar (a frame-parameter `menu-bar-lines') for the small frame is turned off and because the manubar patch is not ready for such multi-frames situation. I will temporally remove the patch from the next release in order to avoid such side-effect. For a while, could you use menu-bar-mode twice? Also, you can customize your .emacs.el, for example, the below line shows the menu-bar by pressing F5 key. (global-set-key [f5] (lambda () (interactive) (menu-bar-mode t))) best wishes, Seiji Zenitani On 2005/04/26, at 4:25, Simon Wright wrote: > Thanks for the reply. > > This is the *Messages* record of a session .. > > ~/sf/coldframe/bugs.html and /Users/simon/cf/bugs.html are the same > file > Checking out /Users/simon/cf/bugs.html.~1.665~...done > Computing differences between bugs.html.~1.665~ and bugs.html ... > Buffer A: Processing difference region 0 of 1 > Buffer B: Processing difference region 0 of 1 > Processing difference regions ... done > Region 1 in buffer A is empty [2 times] > Quit this Ediff session? (y or n) > Menu-Bar mode disabled > Menu-bar mode disabled. Use M-x menu-bar-mode to make the menu bar > appear. > Menu-Bar mode enabled > > The first 'Menu-Bar mode disabled' line appeared when I said M-x > menu-bar-mode. > The second line appeared a second or so later. The 'Menu-Bar mode > enabled' > line appeared when I said M-x menu-bar-mode again; at which point I > got my > menu bar back. > > On 25 Apr 2005, at 07:42, Seiji Zenitani wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Due to the hide-menubar patch, the menu bar and the Dock disappear >> when >> menu-bar-mode is turned off. Try M-x menu-bar-mode. Does Ediff >> unexpectedly invoke menu-bar-mode? If so, I will consider whether the >> patch should be applied. >> >> -- >> Seiji Zenitani >> >> On 2005/04/25, at 14:07, Simon Wright wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> After (and during) an Ediff session, the menu bar disappears when >>> Emacs >>> has >>> the focus. The only way I've found to get it back is to terminate the >>> Emacs >>> session & start again -- not the Right Way with Emacs!Is there a >>> better >>> way? >>> >>> -- >>> Simon Wright >>> 100% Ada - no bugs >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> macemacsjp-english mailing list >>> macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp >>> http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english >> >> _______________________________________________ >> macemacsjp-english mailing list >> macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp >> http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english >> >> > -- > Simon Wright > 100% Ada - no bugs > > _______________________________________________ > macemacsjp-english mailing list > macemacsjp-english at lists.sourceforge.jp > http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/macemacsjp-english > From simon at pushface.org Tue Apr 26 14:26:46 2005 From: simon at pushface.org (Simon Wright) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:26:46 +0100 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 63] Re: Ediff problem with menu bar In-Reply-To: <19f0d2219f44b2be68058df2a63940e8@tkg.att.ne.jp> References: <7c922a70c5a7e8df4ef368fd222a1379@pushface.org> <19f0d2219f44b2be68058df2a63940e8@tkg.att.ne.jp> Message-ID: On 26 Apr 2005, at 05:26, Seiji Zenitani wrote: > (global-set-key [f5] (lambda () (interactive) (menu-bar-mode t))) Excellent! -- Simon Wright 100% Ada - no bugs From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Tue Apr 26 23:53:25 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:53:25 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 64] Re: Cut and Paste from OSX apps? In-Reply-To: <5f6a0b385eecc4ef4d4e5f5d9cdc5462@jtan.com> References: <558cff3b359247b551bf5f792d6ac786@tkg.att.ne.jp> <5f6a0b385eecc4ef4d4e5f5d9cdc5462@jtan.com> Message-ID: <6310a8bc28fa8b302f5898b476bae273@tkg.att.ne.jp> On 2005/04/25, at 16:28, Justin Burket (KL1RL) wrote: > > How would I tell which coding system i'm using? Forgive me if this is > easy or should be known by me :) > > I tried both mac-roman and utf-8. Neither enabled clipboard operating. Set-clipboard-coding-system seems to be an alias for set-selection-coding-system. In order to check selection-coding-system, i) Type selection-coding-system. ii) Move your cursor to next to the last 'm'. iii) Type C-xC-e. If set-clipboard-coding-system or selection-coding-system is properly set, you can paste text from the other applications by M-y or other equivalent keybind. Seiji From Martin.Buchmann at uni-jena.de Thu Apr 28 20:36:01 2005 From: Martin.Buchmann at uni-jena.de (Martin Buchmann) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:36:01 +0200 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 65] Problem while applying tranparency-patch to latest CVS Emacs Message-ID: <4270CAA1.6070306@uni-jena.de> Hi, i just tried to apply the transparency patch to the latest CVS Emacs but if failed: metallw08:~/src/emacs Martin$ patch -p1 <../transparency/transparency.patch patching file src/macterm.c Hunk #1 succeeded at 306 (offset 2 lines). Hunk #2 succeeded at 5314 (offset 67 lines). Hunk #3 FAILED at 9911. 1 out of 3 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/macterm.c.rej Has macterm.c changed recently so that the patch doesn't work anymore? BTW: When will this patch become part of the CVS Emacs. In my experience it works fine. Best regards Martin -- "Here's something to think about: How come you never see a headline like `Psychic Wins Lottery'?" -- Jay Leno From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Fri Apr 29 20:26:45 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:26:45 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 66] Re: Problem while applying tranparency-patch to latest CVS Emacs In-Reply-To: <4270CAA1.6070306@uni-jena.de> References: <4270CAA1.6070306@uni-jena.de> Message-ID: Hi, On 2005/04/28, at 20:36, Martin Buchmann wrote: > BTW: When will this patch become part of the CVS Emacs. In my > experience > it works fine. > Maybe very soon. Last weekend, the author started to contact the emacs maintainer. http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/archives/macemacsjp-dev/2005-April/ 000067.html Seiji From zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp Sat Apr 30 23:10:50 2005 From: zenitani at tkg.att.ne.jp (Seiji Zenitani) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:10:50 +0900 Subject: [macemacsjp-english 67] Re: Problem while applying tranparency-patch to latest CVS Emacs In-Reply-To: <4270CAA1.6070306@uni-jena.de> References: <4270CAA1.6070306@uni-jena.de> Message-ID: <56852e7a21cfbf7b4c417671ee9ad997@tkg.att.ne.jp> Hi, Transparency-0.2.1 is out. (from [Macemacsjp-users 391] by Hiromatsu-san) Seiji On 2005/04/28, at 20:36, Martin Buchmann wrote: > > i just tried to apply the transparency patch to the latest CVS Emacs > but > if failed: > > metallw08:~/src/emacs Martin$ patch -p1 > <../transparency/transparency.patch > patching file src/macterm.c > Hunk #1 succeeded at 306 (offset 2 lines). > Hunk #2 succeeded at 5314 (offset 67 lines). > Hunk #3 FAILED at 9911. > 1 out of 3 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/macterm.c.rej > > Has macterm.c changed recently so that the patch doesn't work anymore?